Ministry of Sound..

tom · Post by **tom** » 23/01/2004 - 21:17

Well, Chris , that's the music-industry they are robbers and liars even here in germany

They are not like me , i promised to mention ROB HUBBARD
( even if the whole tune has nothing to do with BMX KIDZ) and i did !!!
But that'S the way it is.....

best of luck
Thomas

Post by **C64GLeN** » 23/01/2004 - 21:54

Ok, what track ripped off who now?

Chris Abbott · Post by **Chris Abbott** » 23/01/2004 - 22:00

No one was ripped off, really. It's just that Martin Galway appears in a track on the current "Clubber's Guide 2004" from the Ministry of sound, and for some reason his name wasn't against the track. And one of the artists claimed that he wrote the bassline (it's from "Game Over") in a quote on the record label homepage.

However, the financial aspect is OK, so it's more irritation than anything else: Martin Galway owns 7.5% of that track. After all, they only used the Game Over bassline...

Chris

Post by **C64GLeN** » 23/01/2004 - 22:06

Fair enough, which track?

Chris Abbott · Post by **Chris Abbott** » 23/01/2004 - 22:10

"RIDE", disk 2, last track.

Chris

Post by **C64GLeN** » 23/01/2004 - 22:17

I see what you mean.

Chris Abbott · Post by **Chris Abbott** » 23/01/2004 - 22:27

Just to clarify: Martin didn't perform on this track, but of course the bassline was his, which entitles him to a composing credit: we got it from the publisher (nice guy), but the record label seems to have ignored the information, or deliberately suppressed it.

Chris

Lagerfeldt · Post by **Lagerfeldt** » 24/01/2004 - 5:37

Chris, I feel your resentment.

However, is it possible he was listed on the copyright papers as arranger, not composer?

This would enable the publishing company/record company to legally leave out his name on any credits, as arrangers are not entitled to writing credits (which is unfair I think).

Anyway, 7,5% for a bass line is pretty good. Well done!

Who did you make the deal with at MoS? I have something signed (The Whistle Song) with them so I know quite a few of the people there.

Chris Abbott · Post by **Chris Abbott** » 24/01/2004 - 8:04

Nah, he's definitely a composer. It says so on the co-writing agreement.

Also, the deal with MoS was done by the record label behind the track: it basically goes me -> Aussie Publisher of act -> record label -> MoS

MoS should be a lot more interested in the commercial potential of what we're doing, I think, especially as they dealt with Zombie Nation. Still not sure how to crack that particular nut...

Chris

Lagerfeldt · Post by **Lagerfeldt** » 24/01/2004 - 20:01

Well, I never let things like that get away.

A credit is after all quite important, since it can get you new work, and that means more money. Which is a fair thing since we all need to get paid for our work, and a credit doesn't cost anyone anything.

I specify clearly in all my contracts that not crediting me is a violation of the copyright law as well as the contract, and will result in actions being taken.

skitz · Post by **skitz** » 24/01/2004 - 21:32

It's amazing what you can find on the internet these days... I found this rare cut of the "RIDE" track which they obviously changed so they didn't have to credit Martin...

http://www.hadrill.co.uk/Ride(GameOver!).mp3

dan gillgrass · Post by **dan gillgrass** » 24/01/2004 - 22:23

Downloading the original now....( when I get off the q...grr)

Chris Abbott · Post by **Chris Abbott** » 24/01/2004 - 22:59

Hey Skitz,

Assuming you were responsible for that, I sent it off to the guys who did the track. Should give them a bit of a larf... sound quite good actually!!

Chris

skitz · Post by **skitz** » 24/01/2004 - 23:02

It's a fair cop! It was me

It just had to be done!

Tee-Hee!

Kenz · Post by **Kenz** » 25/01/2004 - 14:13

Teehee, that's actually really cool Skitz - can ya do an extended mix pleeeeeeeeze?!

(Boz seconds that - we demand MORE!!!)