New Lazy Jones rip off?

Talk freely about the scene, the world of remixing, or anything off-topic unsuitable for the "Fun Forum".
Makke
gooooooood!
gooooooood!
Posts: 1731
Joined: 21/11/2002 - 13:28
Location: Norrköping, Sweden

New Lazy Jones rip off?

Post by Makke »

I was listening to the Swedish radio station P3 today, when a very familiar sound appeared in a tune that was playing. The familiar tune was Lazy Jones. My first thought was "Wow, someone made a mosh-up with Lazy Jones and this other tune!" because they do that pretty often on that channel. (Mosh-up's that is, as in combine two tunes...some people call it "bootlegs", but bootleg to me is a totally different thing.)

However, when the tune had finished they didn't say anything about a mosh-up of two tunes, or said anything about Lazy Jones or anything. The tune in question was a baile funk tune, and the name of the group and the tune was Portuguese as the group was from Brazil.

Anyway, P3 almost always publish their track lists on their homepage so I waited and waited to find out the real name of the tune. The name of the tune turned out to be "Bochecha Ardendo" by a group called Carrascos.
From http://www.sr.se/p3/latlistor/20041124_1300.stm

Pop Non Stop 2004-11-24
...
13:18 - Carrascos "Bochecha Ardendo"
BOCHECHA ARDENDO / WHITE LABEL 001
Now I've been looking for this tune, through more or less legal channels, but can't find it! So if anyone can get hold of this tune I'd be very happy, because I don't think my ears tricked me.

And if it really is Lazy Jones in there, shouldn't Mr. Abbott know about it? Chris?

I'm going to request the tune, cus the show takes listener requests, and hopefully it'll be played at a time when I can record it.
User avatar
Jan Lund Thomsen
Forum Admin
Forum Admin
Posts: 1176
Joined: 25/11/2002 - 13:16
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Contact:

Re: New Lazy Jones rip off?

Post by Jan Lund Thomsen »

Makke wrote:The name of the tune turned out to be "Bochecha Ardendo" by a group called Carrascos.
A quick google found this: http://www.usinadosom.com.br/cd.asp?indice=33890

In what looks like Spanish, though. Seems the album is called "Os Carrascos" if that's any help.
Makke
gooooooood!
gooooooood!
Posts: 1731
Joined: 21/11/2002 - 13:28
Location: Norrköping, Sweden

Post by Makke »

Found a clip of it...and it most defenitely contains a straight samlpe from Lazy Jones.

I saved the clip and put it up here:
http://www.student.bth.se/~manh01/bochechaardendo.mp3


Found the clip here:
http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF163093-02.htm
Chris Abbott
Forum God
Forum God
Posts: 5307
Joined: 22/11/2002 - 12:21
Location: Dubai. No, not really.
Contact:

Post by Chris Abbott »

Are there still 21 subtunes in Lazy Jones? Because this one doesn't match any of them. Sure, it sounds like Whittaker, but it's got two characteristics: it's in a major key, it's got three chords, and it's got a bit at the end of the loop that goes high. There are no subtunes in Lazy Jones that match the one in the song...

Chris
tas
R64 Founder
R64 Founder
Posts: 2346
Joined: 27/11/2002 - 15:02
Location: Doncaster

Post by tas »

i know where you coming from makke, it's very simular but there are a few changes, i don't think it's a rip, but maybe influenced from the tune (or rather maybe influenced by zombie nation).

It is damn close though
Makke
gooooooood!
gooooooood!
Posts: 1731
Joined: 21/11/2002 - 13:28
Location: Norrköping, Sweden

Post by Makke »

Hmmm...yes, taking a closer listen the melody isn't exactly the same. Maybe wasn't such a scoop after all. :)

However, this clip is pretty shite, but I'm quite convinced that it at least is sampled from the SID tune and then maybe rearranged. Wish I had a better recording, because then you'd hear that it really is the SID playing, and there was more of it through out the tune.

00:07 to 00:14 for example sounds a lot like sub #13, though...bit slowed down.
Chris Abbott
Forum God
Forum God
Posts: 5307
Joined: 22/11/2002 - 12:21
Location: Dubai. No, not really.
Contact:

Post by Chris Abbott »

They probably just used a Sidstation or something.

Chris
Chris Abbott
Forum God
Forum God
Posts: 5307
Joined: 22/11/2002 - 12:21
Location: Dubai. No, not really.
Contact:

Post by Chris Abbott »

> but I'm quite convinced that it at least is sampled from the SID
> tune and then maybe rearranged
Heh, well, that's the intelligent way to do it: the bit that doesn't lead to copyright violations :)
User avatar
DaveT
Commodore Fan
Commodore Fan
Posts: 47
Joined: 22/05/2004 - 11:07
Location: Portugal

Post by DaveT »

One thing though... it's not spanish. It's portuguese (brasilian portuguese to be acurate). Brasilians love this kind of simple stuff...also, the title means "cheek is burning"...aparently from passionate kisses or "something"...
Also I'm amazed it's not a sample or rip.off... copyright laws in Brasil are broken everytime, without problems.
Chris Abbott
Forum God
Forum God
Posts: 5307
Joined: 22/11/2002 - 12:21
Location: Dubai. No, not really.
Contact:

Post by Chris Abbott »

> Also I'm amazed it's not a sample or rip.off...
Well, maybe there were no Lazy Jones subtunes which had the right chords :)
User avatar
Vosla
General Pain In The Forum's Ass
General Pain In The Forum's Ass
Posts: 3680
Joined: 02/12/2002 - 0:12
Location: On the same little planet as you. Be VERY afraid!
Contact:

Post by Vosla »

I listened to the provided sample and OMG!!!
Used to think there is nothing worse than German Rap but this..ACKK!!!
All is lost.
tas
R64 Founder
R64 Founder
Posts: 2346
Joined: 27/11/2002 - 15:02
Location: Doncaster

Post by tas »

any form of german singing is just plain wrong! ;)
User avatar
Lagerfeldt
Forum Celebrity
Forum Celebrity
Posts: 467
Joined: 27/06/2003 - 21:55
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
Contact:

Post by Lagerfeldt »

Tas wrote:any form of german singing is just plain wrong! ;)
Except Rammstein of course! 8)
User avatar
Infamous
Forum God
Forum God
Posts: 1470
Joined: 16/02/2003 - 13:41
Location: Bristol Uk
Contact:

Post by Infamous »

Except Rammstein of course!
word!
Xelebes
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 68
Joined: 04/03/2004 - 20:28
Location: Edmonton
Contact:

Post by Xelebes »

Tas wrote:any form of german singing is just plain wrong! ;)
I don't mind German opera.
Post Reply