True, but it didn't feature a 6 year old who couldn't act even if his life depended on it.Rafael Dyll wrote:And Episode 1 does not suck. We're not 12 year old anymore, that's the difference. C3PO was just as silly 20 years ago.
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Hey, Raf, I can see you're a fan, so sorry so slight Star Wars. However, I must take exception to your comment "if you missed Star Wars, what the hell are you doing watching Episode 1??? If you're into Sci-Fi and you don't know Star Wars, erm... eh???"
At the end of the day, epidose 1 is supposed to be the _first_ in the series. Therefore, like any _first_ episode in a series, no prior knowledge should be assumed. If prior knowledge of a later part is needed, then that's just bad writing, which is added to by the sheer number of in-jokes. Imagine, for instance, if LotR had started with part two--that's what episode 1 felt like to that friend of mine...
Many of the details are also inconsistent, even to a person like me, who's not exactly a huge fan. C3PO being built by Vader was just odd (and out of whack with stuff that happens later) while one can only wonder if Lucas made Jar Jar responsible for the entire galactic war after finding out that everyone really hated the character after episode 1!
However, I do agree with your other point: Star Wars always was a kids' film, and essentially a Sunday morning movie for the big screen. What amazes me is how highly people rate the movies. I mean, they're not bad (well, at least Star Wars and Empire), and are fairly entertaining, but that's about all as far as I'm concerned. I suppose they don't really merit dissection.
At the end of the day, epidose 1 is supposed to be the _first_ in the series. Therefore, like any _first_ episode in a series, no prior knowledge should be assumed. If prior knowledge of a later part is needed, then that's just bad writing, which is added to by the sheer number of in-jokes. Imagine, for instance, if LotR had started with part two--that's what episode 1 felt like to that friend of mine...
Many of the details are also inconsistent, even to a person like me, who's not exactly a huge fan. C3PO being built by Vader was just odd (and out of whack with stuff that happens later) while one can only wonder if Lucas made Jar Jar responsible for the entire galactic war after finding out that everyone really hated the character after episode 1!
There are dozens. Just do a Google and you'll find loads of sites talking about this sort of thing.I dare anyone to find a continuity fault in the two new films.
However, I do agree with your other point: Star Wars always was a kids' film, and essentially a Sunday morning movie for the big screen. What amazes me is how highly people rate the movies. I mean, they're not bad (well, at least Star Wars and Empire), and are fairly entertaining, but that's about all as far as I'm concerned. I suppose they don't really merit dissection.
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Ok but...
... if you do a search on fan sites, you'll find feasible explanations for all of them. 
Your're either into this kind of stuff or not. Only thing that worries me is that people take SW so seriously now and criticize a fun action movie for lack of plot. Come on, the initial trilogy was just so simple. You had the good guys and the bad, the Jedi and the Force. The father and the son and by some ridiculous coincidence, just about everyone was connected to everone else. Leia with Luke, Vader with Obi Wan, where is the difference?
In any case, just for the sake of me saying it, if you watch the old trilogy now, you'll find many little connections to the new films. Like Threepeo saying that they (him and R2) have seen many battles in the past or Greedo (the green scum alien in the bar in Episode 4) who happens to be Anakin's friend in E1. Just proves what a scum he is, he never got out of Tatooine.
Ok, I'm a big fan. I don't wear Stormtrooper outfits in my spare time though!
My the force be with you.
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Your're either into this kind of stuff or not. Only thing that worries me is that people take SW so seriously now and criticize a fun action movie for lack of plot. Come on, the initial trilogy was just so simple. You had the good guys and the bad, the Jedi and the Force. The father and the son and by some ridiculous coincidence, just about everyone was connected to everone else. Leia with Luke, Vader with Obi Wan, where is the difference?
In any case, just for the sake of me saying it, if you watch the old trilogy now, you'll find many little connections to the new films. Like Threepeo saying that they (him and R2) have seen many battles in the past or Greedo (the green scum alien in the bar in Episode 4) who happens to be Anakin's friend in E1. Just proves what a scum he is, he never got out of Tatooine.
Ok, I'm a big fan. I don't wear Stormtrooper outfits in my spare time though!
My the force be with you.
Rafael
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just the annoying twit i am, i will throw in some words ...
just show me a sci fi or fantasy epic with more than one episode that doesn't ails from logical hickups... something like lotr doesn't really count in here, because it's a (huge) book turned movie. and there are tons of conversions from books to movie that were pure crap. let's have a look at movies that are based on a script or idea only. star treks comes to mind with endless logical glitches (explained with even more irratic techno-babble) and its aimed at adults. star wars has big glitches, too. and everybody seems to point on'em. but who really cares... enough people love them movies, both star wars and star trek. i watched all episodes of star wars, i watched every star trek movie on tv (some in cinema) and i don't regret it. if you dislike what lucas did to star wars or what they did to star trek after roddenberry, because one or both of the shows were 'YOUR' universe, your place to let your imagination play, then calm down and play the rpg to own your favorite universe. i say, what is star wars without han solo ? what captain was better - Kirk, Picard, etc. ? it's your imagination, use it. oh my god, somebody please stop me. i am writing and writing and nobody reads this crap, so why don't i stop right here ?
maybe cause my rpg-group just died and i am an addict ? arrgh...
never mind. how about some ideas for a c64-based sci-fi story ? 'they took two computer equivalents to c64 and ventured to the moon' ... 'aliens 9 : retailiation of the breadbox' ... nyahahhahaa...oops.
just show me a sci fi or fantasy epic with more than one episode that doesn't ails from logical hickups... something like lotr doesn't really count in here, because it's a (huge) book turned movie. and there are tons of conversions from books to movie that were pure crap. let's have a look at movies that are based on a script or idea only. star treks comes to mind with endless logical glitches (explained with even more irratic techno-babble) and its aimed at adults. star wars has big glitches, too. and everybody seems to point on'em. but who really cares... enough people love them movies, both star wars and star trek. i watched all episodes of star wars, i watched every star trek movie on tv (some in cinema) and i don't regret it. if you dislike what lucas did to star wars or what they did to star trek after roddenberry, because one or both of the shows were 'YOUR' universe, your place to let your imagination play, then calm down and play the rpg to own your favorite universe. i say, what is star wars without han solo ? what captain was better - Kirk, Picard, etc. ? it's your imagination, use it. oh my god, somebody please stop me. i am writing and writing and nobody reads this crap, so why don't i stop right here ?
maybe cause my rpg-group just died and i am an addict ? arrgh...
never mind. how about some ideas for a c64-based sci-fi story ? 'they took two computer equivalents to c64 and ventured to the moon' ... 'aliens 9 : retailiation of the breadbox' ... nyahahhahaa...oops.
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