Timbaland in unauthorised SID usage allegations

[Analog-X64]

I was just reading CM Issue #107 U.K. Edition. when I came across this in the expert advice q&a section.

Here is part of the question & Answer

Q: How should people go about copyright protecting their music? Is it worth it nowadays?

A: When you create an original piece of music, it's already protected under UK copyright law. The difficult part is proving when a piece was written. The traditional approach has always been to send yourself a copy of your track in the post via registered delivery, leaving the envelope sealed upon receipt. This would be quite easy to fake, though,, so its worth is questionable. However, in the unlikely event that someone as to rip you off and make enough money for it to be worth pursuing, the original arrangement and audio files from your sequencer could prove useful, so make sure you keep well organised backups. Check out the MCPS-PRS Alliance webpage at http://www.mcps-prs-alliance.co.uk for more on UK music copyright issues.

[CreaMD]

Now it appeared on the Heise newsticker as well (german only):
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/83835

Glenn, I hope you take the hand Chris reached out to you. He's probably the most competent help you can get. I really keep my fingers crossed that this all is not just hot air, but eventually pays back for you and Tempest.

Steppe/HVSC Crew

That site caused quite a boost on unique visitors of c64.sk (usually its around 700). Yesterday I had 977 and now whit "heise" it's 1626 ppl and 3 hours left. Interesting.

Only higher ammount I had about 3 years ago on 1st april

[k_rostoen]

A little bit off topic perhaps, but I really didn't think this was legal. I mean, at this site you can get around the clerance of samples by buying their services instead which are pretty damn accurate remakes of songs.

You are a musician, producer, or record company. You have a really great track you want to release so you can make lots of money. However, the track includes one or more samples - and guess what - you either can’t get clearance to use the sample, or costs for using the sample are so high they are really cutting into the artist’s share of the money.

The solution is simple.

Never use samples again in a finished track. Really. Just don’t do it any more. It costs you too much. It isn’t worth it. Instead, get your samples replayed for you by Replay Heaven. With our extensive range of recording facilities, instruments, arrangers and session musicians we can accurately mimic virtually any sample you want. Your track will sound the same, but our charges will be less than the sample clearance.

Oh well, I guess there is a hole in the law for anything.

http://www.replayheaven.com/

Check out their samples.

[Chris Abbott]

'Tis true, 'tis legal. I'd like to see them successfully recreate a SID tune from scratch though

Chris

[k_rostoen]

Sick :/

But yeah, maybe they have an opening for a SID-composer? I mean, now that Timbaland has made SID's the new hot thang again ;)

[Romeo Knight]

http://www.replayheaven.com/

Check out their samples.

Very interesting!
They're not even very good - I think I could get as close to some originals as they do!
And isn't it like that they still need the rights if they replay the whole musical idea? No matter if it's sampled or replayed?!

[Chris Abbott]

http://www.replayheaven.com/

Check out their samples.

Very interesting!
They're not even very good - I think I could get as close to some originals as they do!
And isn't it like that they still need the rights if they replay the whole musical idea? No matter if it's sampled or replayed?!

Hey, you've got a point there. I should have spotted that!

Chris

[Ziphoid]

Erhhm, if you talk to him, you might remember him of the 800 pounds I still get for the Tusker AMIGA music & fx from 1992 he never paid.
And: no, I don't want to drive his left-handed BMW instead

I already talked to him: I was expecting him to ring me up angry, and I wasn't disappointed (he's such a predictable guy!)

His last words to me were "Sue me. You're nobody, you're a chancer, f*ck off" Plus he called me a c*nt. This was because I reminded him that he didn't own most of the music created for System 3 games. I was very polite, too

Chris

So all stories from people who worked with him are true. How sad, and how very childish to call you a c*nt and tell you to bugger off. Lame.

Well, I can't say he treated us very well when we released Fuzzball on the Amiga back in -91 as well... ...but hey, that's history and many people know it... ...too bad he continues in the very same way...

[beyond]

OT: I thought LN4 was canned for good? Is it up for release again?

[Chris Abbott]

OT: I thought LN4 was canned for good? Is it up for release again?

This is for LN on the Wii, DS and PSP. I think it's a return to the LN1 codebase. I do know John Twiddy is one of the few people who still seems to be able to work with Mr Cale.

Chris

[hoomish]

Only just seen this thread - taken me a while to get to the bottom too!

Anyhoo... @Chris: interested to hear about Mr Cale... I take it he intends to ignore what you've said and simply press on?

[Chris Abbott]

Only just seen this thread - taken me a while to get to the bottom too!

Anyhoo... @Chris: interested to hear about Mr Cale... I take it he intends to ignore what you've said and simply press on?

"Sue me"

Well, OK, Mr Cale, I'll get MCPS to do just that.

Chris

[Analog-X64]

Check this Timbaland Interview. He is really full of himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK0z4BHnoNc

[Worped]

'Tis true, 'tis legal. I'd like to see them successfully recreate a SID tune from scratch though

Chris

I saw a very interesting documentary on the infamous K-Tel company (from back in the 70's and 80's). In order to reduce their costs, they started hiring the original artists to go back into the studio (owned by K-Tel) and re-record their songs. They produced near identical recordings which were now owned by K-Tel, eliminating the need to pay the owners of the original recordings (the other record companies).