New Jean-Michel Jarre album
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That is my point.. With boundries in place it is HARDER! so you have to go on something else.. CREATIVE TALENT!omoroca wrote:My opinion is a little different: Without any boundaries to stick to, it's not easier but even more difficult to make good music (or art, or program code, or cook a meal, or whatever). If you are e.g. a SID artist, you can always say: "That damn old chip has such narrow boundaries, it's impossible for me to make any better music than this!" If there are no (or few) boundaries, there's no excuse any more. And besides: It's easier to ride a Go-Kart than to drive a Formula 1 racing car, if ya know what I mean. The wider the possibilities, the harder it gets to be good.tas wrote:I think this is one of the problems with a lot of music these days, It's just so easy to create that musicians like Jarre, Oldfield etc can make an album so very quickly and lazily. There are no boundries and thus you can do anything. Working within boundries means you have to get the best out of what you can. Jarre did that very well as did oldfield. Now if you get stuck in the creative process you use an effect or a quick fix instead of using your creative mind.
Wasn't it Jarre himself who said.."You get the best out of a musician when you working within boundries?" It was either him or Vangelis anyway.
With boundries in place you have to do something wonderful, you have to make a real hard effort to produce something really good. No boundries actually makes it easier to create music but not always good to hear.
F1 is a great example of that! It was noticed that Cars were becoming far too good and so they have tried to go back to when it was all down to driving and being the BEST driver rather than the best car! - so far not entirely working but the effort to go that way is there.
At the end of the day nothing beats a human mind for inspiration - Imagine you as a kid.. I used to play with my dad shoes and use them as a car - I had tremendous fun with that. Give me a computer with generated graphics and play thats made for you is equally as fun but ultimately your living in someone else's creation not your own. When you create your own world with nothing but your own limitations suddenly the world is your oyster and others appreciate that!
yes, that's the albumAnalog-X wrote:I bought that CD sometime between 1994-1995 and too me it sounds like they just took the original tracks and added drums and effects to it, and some silly voice...saying something silly as well.Condor wrote: Latests album I downloaded was 'Oxygene Trance Remixes' (http://www.discogs.com/release/260468) from 1994 (available via torrents).
Album is nothing special, but some elements are very well done, nice job was done in 'Oxygene 2' from that album, and with those ideas in 1994 now they could done a very good remix album. Would love to see that
And, here is my opinion on album...
Well, album is nothing special, I like 2 tracks in fact (or only 2 tracks - for now) -> 'Vintage' & 'Touch to remember'. I wouldn't use the word rubish, but in this album you can't see the brilliant ideas of JMJ.
I would really loved to see 'Oxygene 14-21' somewhere in the future.
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I think the best JMJ is to be found on "The Concerts in China" album, which is basically a best-of album performed live.
Best studio album is Equinoxe from 1978 hands down.
Some good tracks on Oxygene, Rendezvous, Magnetic Fields and also the new Oxygene album.
Waiting for Cousteau is probably his worst album. That last track is simpy new age at its absolute worst and most boring.
I will buy the new one very soon, I heard it's supposed to be very Trentemøller-ish.
Best studio album is Equinoxe from 1978 hands down.
Some good tracks on Oxygene, Rendezvous, Magnetic Fields and also the new Oxygene album.
Waiting for Cousteau is probably his worst album. That last track is simpy new age at its absolute worst and most boring.
I will buy the new one very soon, I heard it's supposed to be very Trentemøller-ish.
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Never really understood the whole jarre thing to be honest, even when i was a young boy i thought he was pretty pretentious and up his own arse with everything he did... whale noises? i mean... honestly.
And the next person to tell me that he's great live is going to be inhumed on the spot with >points at his rusty spoon< THIS rusty spoon.
I remember being forced to sit and listen to equinox the entire album by my mum and at the end being asked how i felt, i said "bored.. can i go out now please?", course lots of people will argue that jean created a certain style but lets be honest if he hadn't of done it someone else would have and at the time wasn't eno? moroder? even tangerine? and lots of japanese people... pioneer my arse.
I always put jean as one of my influences but when asked what he influenced its my "how im NOT going to write something" gene that he tickled.
anyway, lynch away
And the next person to tell me that he's great live is going to be inhumed on the spot with >points at his rusty spoon< THIS rusty spoon.
I remember being forced to sit and listen to equinox the entire album by my mum and at the end being asked how i felt, i said "bored.. can i go out now please?", course lots of people will argue that jean created a certain style but lets be honest if he hadn't of done it someone else would have and at the time wasn't eno? moroder? even tangerine? and lots of japanese people... pioneer my arse.
I always put jean as one of my influences but when asked what he influenced its my "how im NOT going to write something" gene that he tickled.
anyway, lynch away
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