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beyond wrote:Just added a truck load of refs. Thanks for the help, guys!

I guess the three stooges will ignore them as they've done so far.
I hope they get annoyed enough to wave it through.
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And of course PPOT is on iTunes as well... (BIT Live Audio CD). With a UPC code and everything! (C64Audio.com is authorised to issue its own UPC barcodes).

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So to add a comment to that page, I have to edit it?
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Yup. The markup-language is something for itself. But you should be able to figure it out even though that page is one big mess already.
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Just forwarded this thread to Lemon64. Hope you don't mind.
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Good call - thanks for the support.

The whole thing has come to a new low. Now it seems that the three stooges are using Conflict of Interest as an argument to undo my changes that they have been asking for.
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Ah, "shoot the messenger", a tried and tested strategy of dictators everywhere. But surely they don't think they're fooling anyone? The only people who would bother to come up with the verification are people who would be motivated in some way.

Seriously though, I don't get why these people (and apparently solely these people) have life and death over the page?
And how are they able to ignore evidence such as appearing on Amazon and iTunes?

And is there no higher authority or adjudicator to appeal to for this?

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Chris Abbott wrote:Seriously though, I don't get why these people (and apparently solely these people) have life and death over the page?
Well, they DO say that ultimately they aren't the ones deleting it
"By the way, none of the participants in this debate will delete the article - an independent administrator will review the arguments and decide what to do (currently, probably deletion)"
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"By the way, none of the participants in this debate will delete the article - an independent administrator will review the arguments and decide what to do (currently, probably deletion)"
Little comments like that show extreme prejudice: in the literal way of using the word: pre-judice. Personally I think an independent administrator would see it for what it is.

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Maybe we should start our own C64/Amiga/game remix wiki :)
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Would album reviews count as a reliable source:
http://www.lemon64.com/?mainurl=http%3A ... n_tape.php
http://www.transbyte.org/SID/CDReviews_ ... dyRun.html
http://www.vgfrequency.com/?p=267
http://www.lynnemusic.com/pressplayontape2.html

PRESS PLAY ON TAPE REFERENCES:
http://www.nme.com/artists/press-play-on-tape
http://www.adamdawes.com/retrogaming/rg_04_pias.html


Edit: I now realise that most of these reviews have been referenced. However, the lynnemusic link should be considered as notable since Njorn Lynne is a notable musician. Surely they can't argue against this.
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As for C64Audio.com being a reliable source, Wikipedia didn't seem to have any problem with using my analysis of the Timbaland case as a reference source.

Anyway, PPOT are on a commercial release on Amazon and iTunes. I would have thought that was Game Over! Surely you can't start picking and choosing from artists on Amazon and iTunes as to which are valid for a wikipedia page or not? PPOT are more successful and with a higher profile than countless other artists whose Wiki pages are presumably unmolested by this nonsense.

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either this is a sick game for these wikidweebs, or they lack social skills and live underground or something and they get off doing this.

I like Wiki as a source of information, but this side of it disgusts me. These so called editors are out of control and on some kind of power trip and behaving like this because they can get away with it.

I'm going to write to some tech sites and see what they recommend.


EDIT: I have asked for help on some other forums, hopefully I will get some responses.
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Analog-X64 wrote:either this is a sick game for these wikidweebs, or they lack social skills and live underground or something and they get off doing this.
All of the above.

As a small side note, SchuminWeb has just marked all my comments on the deletion page with Single Purpose Account, yet another attempt to soil me and the issue. What a sad case...
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