What sequencing package do you use? Rsn, FL, Cbs, Renoise?

Tonka · Post by **Tonka** » 17/02/2006 - 12:42

This has probably been raised here before, but not recently as far as I remember.

Just wondering who uses what and why. What good/bad experiences have people had with their chosen software/hardware(?) and why is your software the ultimate super mega package?

C'mon, lets have an all out "Fruity loops is shite, I use Goattracker" style argument!!!

I've recently scuttled back to Fruity loops after realising that Renoise is nowhere near the package it promises to be. I always found it hard to get a decent end result out of FL (sonically), but to be honest I'm beginning to think that all software studios are pretty much of a muchness in terms of output sound quality - you just have to work really at the mixing stage to get anything decent...

Tried a demo of Reason 3 also, and it sounded OK to me (lots of people dis the sound quality) but seemed a bit of an arse-around to get anything done @ any great speed

Interested in hearing other peoples views - what works best for you?...

Tonka

Max Levin · Post by **Max Levin** » 17/02/2006 - 14:47

I use Reason, and I can say for sure it's better than Fasttracker2!

No, wait... you can gradually change tempo i FT. Oh well...

Post by **LMan** » 17/02/2006 - 15:02

Reason too. All-that-you-need, extremely stable (approx. one or two crashes <u>per year</u>). Very flexible, and after getting a hang on things you can get to a set goal very quickly.

Makke · Post by **Makke** » 17/02/2006 - 17:45

I use Renoise, because I'm a lazy bastard. I started using it after FastTracker 2, and since it's almost the exact same look and feel it was a quick move.

I am going to start with Cubase some day. I just need a bit more time than I have right now. It's hard to get a crisp mix in Renoise, and bouncing tracks when running out of CPU juice is just not possible with Renoise.

Chris Abbott · Post by **Chris Abbott** » 17/02/2006 - 20:11

S'well documented that I use Cakewalk Sonar and Wavelab and work with individual raw audio tracks recorded one by one. I find that it easier to work with conceptually. I've never got on with trackers.

Chris

Tonka · Post by **Tonka** » 17/02/2006 - 20:45

OK - Reason appears to be in the lead right now. Anyone else using Fruity or am I all alone here?!

Talking of trackers - Dreamstation 2 is looking promising:

http://www.audio-simulation.de/cgi-bin/ ... ;start=0#0

I wish they'd fix the DS dxi so it would WORK properly in FL!

Tonka

jgb · Post by **jgb** » 17/02/2006 - 20:48

Hardware. Elektron Monomachine and Elektron Machinedrum. The two main sequencers for me. I might use Acid 5 too to fix the final things or perhaps rearrange the audio a bit.

Marcel Donné · Post by **Marcel Donné** » 17/02/2006 - 20:51

been using Cubase in some shape or form since 1988. Some might say that I'm stuck in a rut

Max Levin · Post by **Max Levin** » 17/02/2006 - 21:35

Tonka wrote:Anyone else using Fruity or am I all alone here?!

Honorabili is using Fruity!

...and Glyn R. Brown, atleast as I recall

trace · Post by **trace** » 18/02/2006 - 0:52

I use Reason, but is trying out Renoise cause it can handle VST(I)'s

Have tryed Cubase and have used it to some c64 remix i have made.

DHS · Post by **DHS** » 18/02/2006 - 1:53

Nuendo3 (wich basically, is Cubase3 with some added functionalities).

Why? Because it's the way to go

madfiddler · Post by **madfiddler** » 18/02/2006 - 1:55

OK, here's one for an arguement, and I'll prolly not reply cos I'll forget I posted here....

Anything which is loop based, like Acid, is great for "sample artists" who haven't got a musical bone in their body. It really gets my back up when someone buys a copy of these sort of programs, buys a CD of loops. Links some loops together and makes more money than people who are writing music from scratch with a proper sequencer. Just like cover bands who make more money than original bands. I kinda feel the same about the Reason type programs out there. So much is done for you, you can get away with having no talent whatsoever.

For me, Cubase.. I wish I could get into Logic, but I've been using Cubase for around 17 years now and can't get out of it. Plus it actually works properly now on PC

m

Sidman 64 · Post by **Sidman 64** » 18/02/2006 - 3:36

madfiddler wrote:OK, here's one for an arguement, and I'll prolly not reply cos I'll forget I posted here....

Anything which is loop based, like Acid, is great for "sample artists" who haven't got a musical bone in their body. It really gets my back up when someone buys a copy of these sort of programs, buys a CD of loops. Links some loops together and makes more money than people who are writing music from scratch with a proper sequencer. Just like cover bands who make more money than original bands. I kinda feel the same about the Reason type programs out there. So much is done for you, you can get away with having no talent whatsoever.

For me, Cubase.. I wish I could get into Logic, but I've been using Cubase for around 17 years now and can't get out of it. Plus it actually works properly now on PC

m

MR FIDD'S I agree with you 100% with what you say.
The album I did for B.I.T Lite last year was 60% loop based
I only had about 6 weeks to complete the album with 10 tracks that had various styles on it.
I would of recorded the album with my own riff's etc if I had the time but I was also organising the concert along with Markie & Chris so all in all I think it wasn't to bad
as the album I did for FREE

You are a FANTASTIC musician and most of us on this site are not half as good as you so it help's sometimes with loops etc etc.

Paul

Hazel · Post by **Hazel** » 18/02/2006 - 11:08

Well.. I'm using FL Studio as my standard program.. I've been messing around with ReNoise lately but it seems to lack something when it comes to the mastering part (In that case FL is fantastic)..

I only tried Reason once back in the days.. Version 1.5 or something like that.. And I just didn't have a clue how to make it work..

Only thing I want in FL to make it perfect would be that the sequencing part would be more like a tracker (as in ReNoise) but I guess we can't have it all in the same program..

Romeo Knight · Post by **Romeo Knight** » 18/02/2006 - 20:57

Chris Abbott wrote:S'well documented that I use Cakewalk Sonar and Wavelab and work with individual raw audio tracks recorded one by one. I find that it easier to work with conceptually. I've never got on with trackers.

Chris

Yeah, this is how a pro works!

My production style, too.
I use Nuendo and it's by far better than anything else! It's even better than Photoshop!