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Music Video Project Progress Diary
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 1:54
by Analog-X64
I'm going to use this thread to keep you updated as I work on my first Music Video Project, and possibly pickup suggestions as I go along. Or maybe scrap the whole sharing idea and keep the rest a secret till I release it.
A couple of preliminary Scene Ideas.
1000 + Amiga "Boing!" balls falling using a Particle System. Note: The Boing! balls here are rendered using the proper Vertical and Horizontal Segments.
The Following Scene looks more impressive animated than as a single frame. This was a very time consuming scene to produce. I first previewed all 1000+ Screen Shots from the GB64 Database, I than picked my favourite screen shots, followed by what I thought were awesome C64 Title Screens.
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 2:06
by Analog-X64
I plan to make this video as a tribute to both C64 and Amiga so you will see familiar Demo Elements from both the C64 and Amiga Era.
Ofcourse in this case they are rendered.
Its like a Visual version of doing a C64 Remix. Where you take a SID Tune and do a cover/remix using New Instruments.
I'm going to take Demo Elements which normally were generated using a VIC or Paula, Agnus, and Denise Chips.
I've picked a single tune that will play through out the Video, which I've preselected and got permission from author over 6 months ago...I'm going to keep the tune a secret.
Depending if I run out of Ideas, or Get stuck with my limited skill this Video could be anywhere between 2 to 3 minutes long. I might use a different tune for end credits. Will see how that goes.
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 2:21
by Analog-X64
The above Test Scenes were done in 640x480 @ 24 FPS. Which seems to be the Standard Resolution of some of the Video Demo's I've seen released in the Scene. I think at this early stage of the game I need to consider what my final output will be. I have choices of
NTSC 720x480 @ either 29.97 frames per second or 23.976 frames per second
PAL 720x756 @ 25 FPS.
I would like your opinion/input on this. What do you think?
Also another thing that I have to consider logistically is having a Text Scroller scrolling through out the entire video, which I have to do using some kind of Overlay. The individual scenes will be too short to have their own text scrollers.
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 9:15
by the_JinX
Go for PAL..
Or even better.. why not go for one of them new HD standards
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 9:36
by omoroca
Yes, HD would be nice. And no interlacing, please. Only them old tube TVs need that, so why bother!
I think 1920x1080 is full HD, you can generate smaller versions from that later.
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 10:29
by Pex `Mahoney` Tufvesson
It looks promising - I do hope you've got the time for completing such a project, it'll be huge!
I'd say don't bother with interlaced formats. (C64 wasn't interlaced to begin with... and most Amiga stuff didn't use interlace either).
But then, they were 50Hz PAL - non interlaced. Which none of these standard formats of today handles correctly (C64 and Amiga used a hardware hack by _not_ delaying every other frame half a rasterline to accomplish non-interlacing).
What is your "target audience"? If it's computer people, then let their video player deal with converting from 50Hz into someting else (which probably will be a 60Hz TFT display)...
Anyway... there's no "perfect format". Whatever you choose, it won't solve everything...
Good luck!
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 10:37
by Moad'Dib
Ohh come on guys!
Don't make his work so hard with this High Definition stuffs.
That being the case this is rendered scenes, so simple PAL 720x756 @ 25 FPS. will do, but display ratio must be 16:9 for my LCD screen tv.
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 10:59
by Analog-X64
Pex `Mahoney` Tufvesson wrote:
What is your "target audience"? If it's computer people, then let their video player deal with converting from 50Hz into someting else (which probably will be a 60Hz TFT display)...
The target audience is you guys
I was doing some reading on PAL and NTSC Video on DVD format and there is no clear answer. However I found this on Wiki.
"MPEG video must be 25 frames per second on PAL DVDs. On NTSC DVDs MPEG-2 video can be either 29.97 frames per second or 23.976 frames per second, while MPEG-1 video can only be 29.97 frames per second. Interlacing is supported for MPEG-2 video on both PAL and NTSC DVDs"
We use the NTSC Standard here, but the majority of my audience will be PAL users. So I may have to make both formats.
My Electric Company will love me. I've obtained 6 Pentium III Systems from previous upgrades and other people getting rid of their old system.
I'll be using them like a Render Farm, so it should help render these scenes fairly quickly.
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 17:33
by xo
Cool! So you even have your own mini render farm. Not bad!
Posted: 08/02/2007 - 21:29
by Vosla
Whatever! Go on, Analog-X! You have our attention!
Posted: 09/02/2007 - 8:59
by Dumper
Those screenshots look really nice, can't wait to see the finished result.
Posted: 12/02/2007 - 0:42
by Analog-X64
I've started building Render Farm PC's, consisting of 5 Pentium III systems.
Posted: 12/02/2007 - 20:30
by cpt_chaos
I'm really looking forward for some new results like screens or stuff as really liked the 2 above. Especially the one with the amiga balls! nice idea
Go on with it Analog-X
Posted: 12/02/2007 - 21:33
by Analog-X64
cpt_chaos wrote:I'm really looking forward for some new results like screens or stuff as really liked the 2 above. Especially the one with the amiga balls! nice idea
Go on with it Analog-X
- I'm getting all the Hardware ready for some heavy duty number crunching.
- I'm still in the process of making a story board of all the scenes and making sure everything will fit in the time line.
I will post more in due time.
Posted: 12/02/2007 - 22:28
by Soppa
Looks great, anxiously waiting to see the final result!!