Inspiration or Imitation ?

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Inspiration or Imitation ?

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Hi folks,

I was really scared and eased at the same time after I found out the following: Did you ever know that ?

First listen to Aram Khachaturyan's Gayaneh from 1957 here:
http://schneidermusic.com/dumb/aram.rm

and now listen to James Horner's Aliens from 1988:
http://schneidermusic.com/dumb/aliens.rm

A new example:
John Williams Schindler's List 1993:
http://schneidermusic.com/dumb/schindler.rm

James Horner Enemy of the Gates 2001:
http://schneidermusic.com/dumb/enemy.rm


and last but not least:
Erich Wolfgang Korngold's Kingsrow from 1942:
http://schneidermusic.com/dumb/kingsrow.rm


I think I don't need to put the copy here :lol:
But I can you give you a hint: The first part of THE trilogy in 1977

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Do you feel in a bad conscience after getting inspired from others ? No need anymore, you are not alone :wink:
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and now listen to James Horner's Aliens from 1988:
http://schneidermusic.com/dumb/aram.rm
The link is bad, but np, i know the theme :)

Well, we can talk of "heavy inspiration". 8)

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DHS wrote:The link is bad, but np, i know the theme :)
Well, sorry for bad copy and paste. Link is fixed now :D

PS: I'm with you regarding 'heavy inspiration' on that example.
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Well it's not a surprise really...

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You won't believe how many tunes are influenced in such a fashion. Sometimes, I believe it's truly inspiration and simply "in the back of one's head" when composing - so without knowing it, you'll end up composing something very similar to what you heard yourself. It depends.

It really scared me when I started noticing how much stuff crept into Huelsbeck's music (bless him!) :wink: and even well known pop bands like Roxette seemed to copy stuff like crazy. I don't think it's intentional. We're all human. Sometimes, people tell me that my track "Dawn" on my page is a rip off of Terminator. To tell you the truth, today I strongly feel that I took parts of one of Apidya's 2nd level tracks. I noticed that 2 years later...

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Oh, Rafael, I do think it's a surprise.
The point is that 'masters' heavily copy others work. I am not talking about the notes you keep in mind beiing inspired by that next work, I am talking about the notes, expression and instrumentation done in little different environment. The first example is harmless against the second and third. So in this way it's a heavy surprise for me, comparable to the day I was first scrolling through HVSC and recognized that Hubbard did it so much. :wink:
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Just look at the recent Bob Dylan case...
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